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Female Abt 769 - 839  (70 years)


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  • Name Ava de Morvois 
    Suffix Countess of Lower Alsace 
    Nickname Bava 
    Born Abt 769 
    Address:
    Tours
    Tours, Centre-Val de Loire
    France 
    Gender Female 
    Occupation Comtesse 
    Occupation Countess Sundgau (Upper Alsace), Countess of Tours 
    Occupation Countess of Alsace Find all individuals with events at this location 
    unknown 
    Residence France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried 839  Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre-Val de Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Died 4 Nov 839 
    Address:
    Tours
    Tours, Centre-Val de Loire
    France 
    Notes 
    • {geni:about_me}
      http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#Adelaisdiedafter866

      2. HUGUES (-20 Oct 837, bur Monza). Thegan refers to the wife of Emperor Lothar as "filiam Hugi comitis, qui erat de stirpe cuiusdam ducis nomine Etih" and in the following paragraph names her "Irmingarda"[139]. "Karolus…augustus…imperator Romanum…rex Francorum et Langobardorum" donated property "in pago Andegavino in loco Laniaco…et in pago Rodonico" to Kloster Prüm by charter dated 28 Apr 807 which names "Hugo comes"[140]. Comte de Tours: Einhard names "Haido episcopus Baslensus et Hugus comes Toronicus et Aio Langobardus de Foroiluii" as imperial missi who met the missi from Constantinople in 811[141]. The Annales Fuldenses record that the emperor sent "Haitonem Basilensem episcopus et Hug comitem Turonicum et Aio Langobardum de Aquileia" as missi to Constantinople in 811 to confirm the peace "cum Niceforo"[142]. The Gesta Francorum names "Hug comitem Turonicum" in 811[143]. Timiolus and abbot of St Julien d'Auxerre 811. The extensive interests of Hugues in Alsace are confirmed by the following document: a charter confirms imperial agreement to an exchange of property agreed 2 Sep 1820 between “Huc quondam comes” and “monasterium...Wizunburg” which specifies numerous places in Alsace[144]. The reference “quondam” is unexplained unless the document was prepared later than the date specified, either during the period which followed Hugues’s asset confiscations in [828] or after he died. Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that Emperor Louis was met at "Compendium" by "Pippinus filius eius cum magnatis primis patris sui…Hug et Matfrido…Gotefrido"[145]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Hugonem et Mathfridum comites" as missi of Pepin King of Aquitaine [in 827][146]. Wilsdorf highlights the likelihood that the failure of their campaign against the Moors in the march of Spain at this time was due to delay in Hugues and Matfried arriving with their army in time to prevent the devastation of areas around Barcelona and Girona[147]. This appears confirmed by the Vita Hludowici Imperatoris which records that the affair was submitted to an assembly at Aachen in Feb 828 which recommended the confiscation of their assets as punishment[148]. This presumably included the county of Tours, in the case of Hugues who, as noted below, was called “timidus” by Thegan. Wilsdorf highlights the probable involvement of Hugues in the plots in [830/36], resulting from the rivalry between Emperor Louis (and his wife Judith) and the emperor’s eldest son Lothaire, which resulted in further periods of successive rehabilitation and disgrace for Hugues, culminating in his exile to northern Italy[149]. Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Hlutharius" submitted to his father Emperor Louis I [in 836] followed by "socer eius Hug timidus"[150]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Wala Corbeiensis abbas, Matfridus, Hugo, Lantbertus, Godefridus, itemque filius eius Godefridus, Agimbertus comes Pertensis…sed et Richardus" died between "Kal Sep usque ad missam sancti Martini" [in 836][151]. The Gesta Francorum records that "Lantbertus et Hugus" were among the "plureo ex primoribus Italiæ" who were killed at Ticino "837 III Kal Ian noctu octies" when "tremuisse perhibetur"[152]. The Annales Fuldenses also record the earthquake at Ticino in Italy "837 III Kal Ian" in which "plures ex primoribus Italiæ" were killed including "Lantbertus et Hugus"[153]. m AVA, daughter of --- (-4 Sep 839, bur Monza). Her marriage is inferred from the testament of her supposed son-in-law "Gerardus [comes]" who names "coniugis meæ…Berthæ…genitoribus atque parentibus…Luthardi et Grimildis atque…Hugonis et Bavæ…filiis et filiabus ipsorum"[154]. Hugues & his wife had six children:

      a) ERMENGARDE (-20 Mar 851, bur Kloster Erstein, near Strasbourg). Thegan refers to the wife of Emperor Lothar as "filiam Hugi comitis, qui erat de stirpe cuiusdam ducis nomine Etih" and in the following paragraph names her "Irmingarda"[155]. The Annales Xantenses record the marriage in 821 of "Ludewicus imperator…filio suo Lothario" and "Ermingardam filiam Hugonis comitis Turonicorum"[156]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ermengardis filia…Hugonis Provincie ducis vel comitis" as wife of "Lotharius imperator"[157]. She founded Kloster Erstein in Alsace 849. m (Thionville, Moselle mid-Oct 821) Emperor LOTHAR I, son of Emperor LOUIS I "le Pieux" & his first wife Ermengardis [de Hesbaye] (795-Kloster Prüm 29 Sep 855, bur Kloster Prüm). He was installed as LOTHAR I King of Lotharingia in 843.

      b) ADELAIS (-after 866). The Miraculis Sancti Germani name "Adheleid" as wife of "Chuonradus princeps", noting that she was “primorum et ipsa natalium perinde titulus gloriosa”[158]. A poem by Walahfridus Strabus records the epitaph of "Adelheidam"[159]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. Some secondary works[160] assert that the second husband of Adelais was Robert "le Fort" [Capet]. If this is correct, Adelais must have been Comte Robert's second or third wife as Conrad died after 862 by which date Robert's known children were already born. The assertion appears based on the Chronicle of St Bénigne de Dijon which names "duo filii Rotberti Andegavorum comitis, frs Hugonis abbatis, senior Odo…Robertus alter"[161]. Settipani states that the passage is a 12th century interpolation and has little historical value, although he does suggest that it is likely that the wife of Comte Robert was a close relation of Adelais without providing the basis for this statement[162]. A family connection between Comte Robert and Conrad Comte de Paris is also suggested by the former being invested with the county of Auxerre in 865, after this county was confiscated from the latter (as recorded by Hincmar[163]), on the assumption that there was some basis of heredity behind the transmission of counties in France at that time (which is probable, but remains unproven). m CONRAD "l'Ancien" Comte de Paris, son of WELF I Graf in Swabia & his wife Heilwig --- (-22 Mar [862/66]).

      c) BERTA (-[6 Nov] 877). Her parentage is indicated by her husband's testament under which "Gerardus [comes]" names "coniugis meæ…Berthæ…genitoribus atque parentibus…Luthardi et Grimildis atque…Hugonis et Bavæ…filiis et filiabus ipsorum"[164]. Pope John VIII recalls "Gerardus comes…cum Berta quondam conjuge sua" as founders of the monastery referred to in his letter[165]. Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks confirmed the foundation of the monastery "in pago Avalensi in parrochia Augustudunensis civitatis in loco…Virziliacus" by "Gerardus…comes", with the consent of "coniugis sue Berthæ", by charter dated 6 Jan 868[166]. The Chronico Vezeliacensi records that "Berta comitissa hujus loci fundatrix" died in 844 and was buried "apud Pulterias"[167], although the year is incorrect. The 13th century obituary of the Eglise primatiale de Lyon records the death "VIII Id Nov" of "Berta comitissa"[168]. m GERARD [de Roussillon] Comte de Vienne, son of [LIUTHARD & his wife Grimhild ---] (-[11 Feb or 4 Mar] 874, bur Avignon).

      d) HUGUES (-before 24 Jan 835, bur Milan San Ambrogio). Wilsdorf records that Hugues and Liutfried [II], sons of Hugues, accompanied their father to northern Italy where the younger Hugues died and was buried in Milan, as confirmed by a charter dated 24 Jan 835 under which his brother Lothar I donated property to San Ambrogio at the request of his wife who was Hugues’s sister[169].

      e) LIUTFRIED [II] (-[864/66]). The Annales Bertiniani name "Liutfrido avunculo suo et Waltario" recording their support for "Hlotharius [rex]" when he purported to marry "Waldradam concubinam" in 862 and crown her[170].

      - see below.

      f) BERENGAR (-[838]). The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Beringarii H. Turonici quondam comitis filii" as a candidate to govern Septimania, in competition with Bernard, adding that he died young [in 838][171].



      m AVA , datter av --- (-4 september 839, bur Monza). Ekteskapet hennes utledes fra testamentet til hennes antatte svigersønn" Gerardus [kommer ] "hvem heter" coniugis meæ ... Berthæ ... genitoribus atque parentibus ... Luthardi et Grimildis atque ... Hugonis et Bavæ… filiis et filiabus ipsorum " [154] . Hugues og hans kone hadde seks barn:



      Ancestral File


      name: Aba de Alsace (AFN: 3099-56C)
      sexo: female
      defunción:
      número de CD: 0

      Matrimonios (1)
      cónyuge: Hugh II de Tours (AFN: 3099-2Q5)

      Ocultar hijos (4)
      hijo 1: Ermengarde de Tours (AFN: 309G-0RP)
      sexo: female
      nacimiento:
      France
      defunción: 20 March 0851
      France

      hijo 2: Adelaide de Tours (AFN: 3098-XH2)
      sexo: female
      defunción:

      hijo 3: Bertha de Tours (AFN: 30DS-868)
      sexo: female
      nacimiento: 0794
      Alsace, France
      defunción:

      hijo 4: Hugh de Bourges Count of Bourges (AFN: 30DS-4TH)
      sexo: male
      nacimiento: 0802
      defunción:

      Enviado por (1) ladeane270138

      Cita de este registro
      "Ancestral File," database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/9SYB-533 : accessed 2014-05-11), entry for Aba de Alsace
      ____________________________

      aka = also known as

      *Other Event(s)
      *Note 1: Countess of Tours AKA (Facts Page): Aba
      *--------------------
      Ava DE TOURS7
      *was born in 769 in Tours, , ,
      * She was born in 779 in Tours,
      *aka Ava ALSACE. aka Ava Countess Of ALSACE.
      *---------------------------
      http://genealogy-records.info/f_abd.html
      *Tours , Hugh (Hugues) II 'le Mefiant' [aka: Count of Orleans;Count of Tours;Count of Upper Alsace]
      *b. 0765 Upper, Alsace, Tours, France
      *d. Upper, Alsace, Tours, France
      *Gender: Male
      *Parents: - Father: Upper Alsace , Luitfrid II - Mother: Hiltrude , Miss.
      *Family: -Marriage: ABT 0797
      *Spouse: France , Ava (Aba,Bava) [aka: Countess of Tourf; Countess of Upper Alsace]
      b. 0769 Tours, Indre et Loire, France
      d. Upper, Alsace, Tours, France - Gender: Female
      **Parents: - Father: Paris , Beague - Mother: Adaltrud (Aupais,Aupala,Aupals,Alpas) , Miss
      ***Children: de Tours , Bertha + Eticonides , Luitfrid III
      ***This family has 3 more children.
      ***Unregistered versions of GED4WEB© will only output 2 children
      *[http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=laduke&id=I17059 see Rootsweb]
      * Name: Ava (Bava) De Tours Countess Upper Alsace - Given Name: Ava (Bava)
      * Surname: De Tours - • Suffix: Countess Upper Alsace - Sex: F
      * Birth: 0769 in Tours, France ( _UID: C7FE631FE293844F8D524CF1AD3A638378F5 )
      *---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      *Father: Girard de Paris b: 0743 in Paris, France + Mother: Rhotrude Martel Caroling b: ABT 0744 in France
      **Marriage 1 Hughes II "Le Mefiant" De Alsace b: ABT 0765 in Aachen, Germany
      **Married: ABT 0769 in Tours, France
      ***Children: 1. Adelheid De Alsace Princess Holy Roman Empire b: 0810 in Tours, France
      ____________________________

      Bava de Tours, comtesse de lower Alsace[1, 2, 3]
      Female Abt 769 - 839

      Suffix comtesse de lower Alsace
      Born Abt 769 of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location
      Gender Female
      AFN 9HQD-LC
      Name AKA Ava [2]
      Name AKA Ava d'Alsace [4]
      Died 4 Nov 839 [5]
      Notes
      TITLES: Countess of Lower Alsace.
      Person ID I12816 Europe: Royal and Noble Houses of Europe
      Last Modified 8 Apr 2014

      Family
      Hugues II d'Alsace, comte de Tours, b. Abt 765, of, Upper Alsace, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 20 Oct 837
      Married Y [3, 4]
      Children
      1. Luitfrid, Herr von Monza, b. Abt 798, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Abt 865-866
      2. Ermengarde de Tours, Empress of Holy Roman Empire, b. Abt 802, of, , Alsace-Lorraine, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 20 Mar 851
      3. Adela de Tours, Princess of The Holy Roman Empire, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Aft 866
      4. Bertha de Tours, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Yes, date unknown
      5. Hugo de Tours, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 25 Jan 835
      Last Modified 14 Mar 2013
      Family ID F7029 Group Sheet

      Sources
      [S14] #236 Encyclopédie généalogique des maisons souveraines du monde (1959-1966), Sirjean, Gaston, (Paris: Gaston Sirjean, 1959-1966), FHL book 944 D5se., vol. 1 pt. 1 p. 53.

      [S39] Medieval, royalty, nobility family group sheets (filmed 1996), Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Family History Department. Medieval Family History Unit, (Manuscript. Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1996), FHL film 1553977-1553985..

      [S5] #552 Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten. Neue Folge (1978), Schwennicke, Detlev, (Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, c1978-1995 (v. 1-16) -- Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio Klostermann, c1998- Medieval Families bibliography #552.), FHL book Q 940 D5es new series., Band 3.4 Tafel 736.

      [S89] La Prehistoire des Capetiens, Settipani, Christian, (??: Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 262.

      [S5] #552 Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten. Neue Folge (1978), Schwennicke, Detlev, (Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, c1978-1995 (v. 1-16) -- Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio Klostermann, c1998- Medieval Families bibliography #552.), FHL book Q 940 D5es new series., Band 1.2 Tafel 200 A.

      Source: https://histfam.familysearch.org//getperson.php?personID=I12816&tree=EuropeRoyalNobleHous
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      Ancestral File

      name: Aba de Alsace (AFN: 3099-56C) sexo: female defunción: número de CD: 0

      Matrimonios (1) cónyuge: Hugh II de Tours (AFN: 3099-2Q5)

      Ocultar hijos (4)
      hijo 1: Ermengarde de Tours (AFN: 309G-0RP) sexo: female nacimiento:

      France
      defunción: 20 March 0851

      France
      hijo 2: Adelaide de Tours (AFN: 3098-XH2) sexo: female defunción:

      hijo 3: Bertha de Tours (AFN: 30DS-868) sexo: female nacimiento: 0794

      Alsace, France
      defunción: hijo 4: Hugh de Bourges Count of Bourges (AFN: 30DS-4TH) sexo: male nacimiento: 0802 defunción: Enviado por (1) ladeane270138

      Cita de este registro "Ancestral File," database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/9SYB-533 : accessed 2014-05-11), entry for Aba de Alsace ____________________________

      aka = also known as

      Other Event(s)
      *Note 1: Countess of Tours AKA (Facts Page): Aba
      --------------------
      Ava DE TOURS7

      was born in 769 in Tours, , ,
      She was born in 779 in Tours,
      aka Ava ALSACE. aka Ava Countess Of ALSACE.
      ---------------------------
      http://genealogy-records.info/f_abd.html

      Tours , Hugh (Hugues) II 'le Mefiant' [aka: Count of Orleans;Count of Tours;Count of Upper Alsace]
      b. 0765 Upper, Alsace, Tours, France
      d. Upper, Alsace, Tours, France
      Gender: Male
      Parents: - Father: Upper Alsace , Luitfrid II - Mother: Hiltrude , Miss.
      Family: -Marriage: ABT 0797
      Spouse: France , Ava (Aba,Bava) [aka: Countess of Tourf; Countess of Upper Alsace]
      b. 0769 Tours, Indre et Loire, France d. Upper, Alsace, Tours, France - Gender: Female

      *Parents: - Father: Paris , Beague - Mother: Adaltrud (Aupais,Aupala,Aupals,Alpas) , Miss
      *Children: de Tours , Bertha + Eticonides , Luitfrid III
      This family has 3 more children.
      Unregistered versions of GED4WEB© will only output 2 children
      see Rootsweb
      Name: Ava (Bava) De Tours Countess Upper Alsace - Given Name: Ava (Bava)
      Surname: De Tours - • Suffix: Countess Upper Alsace - Sex: F
      Birth: 0769 in Tours, France ( _UID: C7FE631FE293844F8D524CF1AD3A638378F5 )
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Father: Girard de Paris b: 0743 in Paris, France + Mother: Rhotrude Martel Caroling b: ABT 0744 in France
      Marriage 1 Hughes II "Le Mefiant" De Alsace b: ABT 0765 in Aachen, Germany
      Married: ABT 0769 in Tours, France
      Children: 1. Adelheid De Alsace Princess Holy Roman Empire b: 0810 in Tours, France
      ____________________________

      Bava de Tours, comtesse de lower Alsace[1, 2, 3] Female Abt 769 - 839

      Suffix comtesse de lower Alsace Born Abt 769 of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location Gender Female AFN 9HQD-LC Name AKA Ava [2] Name AKA Ava d'Alsace [4] Died 4 Nov 839 [5] Notes TITLES: Countess of Lower Alsace. Person ID I12816 Europe: Royal and Noble Houses of Europe Last Modified 8 Apr 2014

      Family Hugues II d'Alsace, comte de Tours, b. Abt 765, of, Upper Alsace, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 20 Oct 837 Married Y [3, 4] Children

      1. Luitfrid, Herr von Monza, b. Abt 798, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Abt 865-866 2. Ermengarde de Tours, Empress of Holy Roman Empire, b. Abt 802, of, , Alsace-Lorraine, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 20 Mar 851 3. Adela de Tours, Princess of The Holy Roman Empire, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Aft 866 4. Bertha de Tours, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Yes, date unknown 5. Hugo de Tours, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 25 Jan 835
      Last Modified 14 Mar 2013 Family ID F7029 Group Sheet

      Sources [S14] #236 Encyclopédie généalogique des maisons souveraines du monde (1959-1966), Sirjean, Gaston, (Paris: Gaston Sirjean, 1959-1966), FHL book 944 D5se., vol. 1 pt. 1 p. 53.

      [S39] Medieval, royalty, nobility family group sheets (filmed 1996), Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Family History Department. Medieval Family History Unit, (Manuscript. Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1996), FHL film 1553977-1553985..

      [S5] #552 Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten. Neue Folge (1978), Schwennicke, Detlev, (Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, c1978-1995 (v. 1-16) -- Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio Klostermann, c1998- Medieval Families bibliography #552.), FHL book Q 940 D5es new series., Band 3.4 Tafel 736.

      [S89] La Prehistoire des Capetiens, Settipani, Christian, (??: Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 262.

      [S5] #552 Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten. Neue Folge (1978), Schwennicke, Detlev, (Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, c1978-1995 (v. 1-16) -- Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio Klostermann, c1998- Medieval Families bibliography #552.), FHL book Q 940 D5es new series., Band 1.2 Tafel 200 A.

      Source: https://histfam.familysearch.org//getperson.php?personID=I12816&tree=EuropeRoyalNobleHous

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      Ancestral File

      name: Aba de Alsace (AFN: 3099-56C) sexo: female defunción: número de CD: 0

      Matrimonios (1) cónyuge: Hugh II de Tours (AFN: 3099-2Q5)

      Ocultar hijos (4)
      hijo 1: Ermengarde de Tours (AFN: 309G-0RP) sexo: female nacimiento:

      France
      defunción: 20 March 0851

      France
      hijo 2: Adelaide de Tours (AFN: 3098-XH2) sexo: female defunción:

      hijo 3: Bertha de Tours (AFN: 30DS-868) sexo: female nacimiento: 0794

      Alsace, France
      defunción: hijo 4: Hugh de Bourges Count of Bourges (AFN: 30DS-4TH) sexo: male nacimiento: 0802 defunción: Enviado por (1) ladeane270138

      Cita de este registro "Ancestral File," database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/9SYB-533 : accessed 2014-05-11), entry for Aba de Alsace ____________________________

      aka = also known as

      Other Event(s)
      *Note 1: Countess of Tours AKA (Facts Page): Aba
      --------------------
      Ava DE TOURS7

      was born in 769 in Tours, , ,
      She was born in 779 in Tours,
      aka Ava ALSACE. aka Ava Countess Of ALSACE.
      ---------------------------
      http://genealogy-records.info/f_abd.html

      Tours , Hugh (Hugues) II 'le Mefiant' [aka: Count of Orleans;Count of Tours;Count of Upper Alsace]
      b. 0765 Upper, Alsace, Tours, France
      d. Upper, Alsace, Tours, France
      Gender: Male
      Parents: - Father: Upper Alsace , Luitfrid II - Mother: Hiltrude , Miss.
      Family: -Marriage: ABT 0797
      Spouse: France , Ava (Aba,Bava) [aka: Countess of Tourf; Countess of Upper Alsace]
      b. 0769 Tours, Indre et Loire, France d. Upper, Alsace, Tours, France - Gender: Female

      *Parents: - Father: Paris , Beague - Mother: Adaltrud (Aupais,Aupala,Aupals,Alpas) , Miss
      *Children: de Tours , Bertha + Eticonides , Luitfrid III
      This family has 3 more children.
      Unregistered versions of GED4WEB© will only output 2 children
      see Rootsweb
      Name: Ava (Bava) De Tours Countess Upper Alsace - Given Name: Ava (Bava)
      Surname: De Tours - • Suffix: Countess Upper Alsace - Sex: F
      Birth: 0769 in Tours, France ( _UID: C7FE631FE293844F8D524CF1AD3A638378F5 )
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Father: Girard de Paris b: 0743 in Paris, France + Mother: Rhotrude Martel Caroling b: ABT 0744 in France
      Marriage 1 Hughes II "Le Mefiant" De Alsace b: ABT 0765 in Aachen, Germany
      Married: ABT 0769 in Tours, France
      Children: 1. Adelheid De Alsace Princess Holy Roman Empire b: 0810 in Tours, France
      ____________________________

      Bava de Tours, comtesse de lower Alsace[1, 2, 3] Female Abt 769 - 839

      Suffix comtesse de lower Alsace Born Abt 769 of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location Gender Female AFN 9HQD-LC Name AKA Ava [2] Name AKA Ava d'Alsace [4] Died 4 Nov 839 [5] Notes TITLES: Countess of Lower Alsace. Person ID I12816 Europe: Royal and Noble Houses of Europe Last Modified 8 Apr 2014

      Family Hugues II d'Alsace, comte de Tours, b. Abt 765, of, Upper Alsace, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 20 Oct 837 Married Y [3, 4] Children

      1. Luitfrid, Herr von Monza, b. Abt 798, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Abt 865-866 2. Ermengarde de Tours, Empress of Holy Roman Empire, b. Abt 802, of, , Alsace-Lorraine, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 20 Mar 851 3. Adela de Tours, Princess of The Holy Roman Empire, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Aft 866 4. Bertha de Tours, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Yes, date unknown 5. Hugo de Tours, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 25 Jan 835
      Last Modified 14 Mar 2013 Family ID F7029 Group Sheet

      Sources [S14] #236 Encyclopédie généalogique des maisons souveraines du monde (1959-1966), Sirjean, Gaston, (Paris: Gaston Sirjean, 1959-1966), FHL book 944 D5se., vol. 1 pt. 1 p. 53.

      [S39] Medieval, royalty, nobility family group sheets (filmed 1996), Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Family History Department. Medieval Family History Unit, (Manuscript. Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1996), FHL film 1553977-1553985..

      [S5] #552 Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten. Neue Folge (1978), Schwennicke, Detlev, (Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, c1978-1995 (v. 1-16) -- Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio Klostermann, c1998- Medieval Families bibliography #552.), FHL book Q 940 D5es new series., Band 3.4 Tafel 736.

      [S89] La Prehistoire des Capetiens, Settipani, Christian, (??: Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 262.

      [S5] #552 Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten. Neue Folge (1978), Schwennicke, Detlev, (Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, c1978-1995 (v. 1-16) -- Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio Klostermann, c1998- Medieval Families bibliography #552.), FHL book Q 940 D5es new series., Band 1.2 Tafel 200 A.

      Source: https://histfam.familysearch.org//getperson.php?personID=I12816&tree=EuropeRoyalNobleHous

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    • !Source: THE RUFUS PARKS PEDIGREE by Brian J.L. Berry
      !Information: page 57 & 58 Chart: page 57
      !Arms:

      !Page 57 ---
      !8. -- See notes of RUTPERT (ROBERT the Strong, le Fort, der Starke).

      !Page 58 ---
      !5. -- HUGH, III, d. c.839 Count of Alsace, mar. BAVA

      !Availability: The libraries of Ken, Karen, Kristen, Kevin, Brian, Amy, Adam and FAL
    • _P_CCINFO 1-2782
    • 887184939. Ava (Bava) N.NSON(21296). Hun gir 837 curtis Leocate ved Lambor til kirken i Monza.
    • Data From Lynn Jeffrey Bernhard, 2445 W 450 South #4, Springville UT 84663-4950
      email - bernhardengineer@netscape.net
    • --Other Fields

      Ref Number: 354
    • SOURCE NOTES:
      http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/edw3chrt.html
      http://www.jodygoad.com/d0000/g0000014.html#I3031
    • RESEARCH NOTES:
      Countess of Alsace
      10-8-836 fikk she gaarden Lacato in Milano-omraadet of emperor Lothar
      I. I 837 ga she Curtis Leocate ved Lambro til church in Monza.
    • _P_CCINFO 1-20792
    • This individual was found on GenCircles at: http://www.gencircles.com/users/tondhwr/9/data/3172
    • _P_CCINFO 2-2438
    • _P_CCINFO 2-2438
    • _P_CCINFO 2-2438
    • 1 NAME /Ava/ 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT. 769


      [De La Pole.FTW]
      Sources: RC 167, 169, 224, 263, 264; A. Roots 48, 181-5; Kraentzler. RC: Aba (Bava), living 837. K. calls her Ava. Roots: Bava.
    • 37th great grandmother
    • 1 NAME /Ava/ 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT. 769


      [De La Pole.FTW]
      Sources: RC 167, 169, 224, 263, 264; A. Roots 48, 181-5; Kraentzler. RC: Aba (Bava), living 837. K. calls her Ava. Roots: Bava.
    • 1 NAME /Ava/ 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT. 769


      [De La Pole.FTW]
      Sources: RC 167, 169, 224, 263, 264; A. Roots 48, 181-5; Kraentzler. RC: Aba (Bava), living 837. K. calls her Ava. Roots: Bava.
    • Name Prefix: Lady Name Suffix: Of Tours
    • Rootsweb Feldman
      URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3044567&id=I13793
      # ID: I13793
      # Name: Hugues Count of ALSACE 1 2 3 4 5
      # Sex: M
      # Title: [Count of Tours]
      # Birth: ABT 765 in of, Upper, Alsace, France 1 2 3 4 5
      # Death: in France 1 2 3 4 5
      # Ancestral File #: 9HQD-K6
      # Change Date: 15 JAN 2004 5
      # Change Date: 5 AUG 2001 2 3 4 5
      # Note:

      [Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED]

      2 SOUR S332582
      3 DATA
      4 TEXT Date of Import: 14 Jan 2004

      OCCU Hugo II L de Tours ...
      SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
      HAWKINS.GED says ABT 770; members.aol.com/sargen3 says ABT 765, Upper Alsace;
      misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0002/g0000044.htm#I1423 say 765
      SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124,243 says Sep/Nov 836;
      COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 17 says ABT 836;
      ANJOU.TXT (Compuserve) says Sep/Nov 836;
      SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart
      COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 17
      PAGE 124,127,164,193
      QUAY 1
      Hugo II "le Mefiant" Count of Sundgau de Tour, Duke of Alsace - COMYNI.GED
      (Compuserve), #1389; Hugh le Mefiant, Count of Tours "of the House of Eticho"
      - ANJOU.TXT (Compuserve); Count of Tours; was of the House of Eticho -
      Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart p. 243; Count of Tours - HAWKINS.GED
      Count of Alsace - http://misc.tra veller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0002/g
      0000044.htm#I1423

      Father: Luitfrid II Count of ALSACE b: ABT 740 in of, Alsace, France
      Mother: Hiltrude Countess of Upper ALSACE b: ABT 744 in ,Upper, Alsace, France

      Marriage 1 Ava Countess of ALSACE b: ABT 769 in of Tours, Indre et Loire, France

      * Married: ABT 797 in France 1 2 3 4 5
      * Note:

      [Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED]

      Children

      1. Has Children Hugh I Count of BOURGES b: ABT 800
      2. Has Children Adela de ALSACE b: ABT 802 in of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France
      3. Has Children Irmengarde Countess of TOURS b: 804 in Alsace, Alsace, France
      4. Has Children Bertha Of TOURS b: 804 in Tours, Touraine, France


      Sources:

      1. Title: daveanthes.FTW
      Note: ABBR daveanthes.FTW
      Note: Source Media Type: Other
      Repository:
      Call Number:
      Media: Book
      Text: Date of Import: 14 Jan 2004
      2. Title: daveanthes.FTW
      Note: ABBR daveanthes.FTW
      Note: Source Media Type: Other
      Repository:
      Call Number:
      Media: Book
      Text: Date of Import: Jan 13, 2004
      3. Title: Spare.FTW
      Repository:
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      Media: Other
      Text: Date of Import: Jan 18, 2004
      4. Title: Spare.FTW
      Repository:
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      Media: Other
      Text: Date of Import: 21 Jan 2004
      5. Title: Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED
      Repository:
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      Media: Other
      Text: Date of Import: Feb 6, 2004 [Geoffrey De Normandie, Gedcom BSJTK Smith Family Tree.ged]

      RELI Sources: Dee, Danielle Marie. AOL user Dani Dee. File uploaitwiesner--Other FieldsRef Number: +
      DATE 12 NOV 1997

      OCCU occ. 837 ...
      SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124 says CIR 779;
      HAWKINS.GED says ABT 770;members.aol.com/sargen3 says ABT 769,Tours, Indre-et;
      misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0002/g0000044.htm#I1423 say 769
      SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart
      says BEF 837
      PAGE 17, 124
      QUAY 1
      SOUR COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve)
      ANJOU.TXT (Compuserve)
      Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 164
      PAGE 10
      QUAY 0
      Countess of Alsace - http://misc. traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d000
      2/g0000044.htm#I1423

      OCCU occ. 837 ...
      SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124 says CIR 779;
      HAWKINS.GED says ABT 770;members.aol.com/sargen3 says ABT 769,Tours, Indre-et;
      misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0002/g0000044.htm#I1423 say 769
      SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart
      says BEF 837
      PAGE 17, 124
      QUAY 1
      SOUR COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve)
      ANJOU.TXT (Compuserve)
      Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 164
      PAGE 10
      QUAY 0
      Countess of Alsace - http://misc. traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d000
      2/g0000044.htm#I1423

      OCCU occ. 837 ...
      SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124 says CIR 779;
      HAWKINS.GED says ABT 770;members.aol.com/sargen3 says ABT 769,Tours, Indre-et;
      misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0002/g0000044.htm#I1423 say 769
      SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart
      says BEF 837
      PAGE 17, 124
      QUAY 1
      SOUR COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve)
      ANJOU.TXT (Compuserve)
      Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 164
      PAGE 10
      QUAY 0
      Countess of Alsace - http://misc. traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d000
      2/g0000044.htm#I1423

      DATE 30 DEC 1995

      TITL Final.ged
      REPO
      CALN
      MEDI Other
      DATA
      TEXT Date of Import: Feb 1, 1999
      TITL Final.ged
      REPO
      CALN
      MEDI Other
      DATA
      TEXT Date of Import: Feb 1, 1999

      EVEN
      TYPE Title (Facts Pg)
      PLAC Comtesse de Tours


      TYPE Book
      AUTH Å or c:Weis, Frederick Lewis
      PERI Ancestral Roots
      EDTN 7th
      PUBL Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD (1999)
      TEXT (181-5)
      TYPE Book
      AUTH Stuart, Roderick W.
      PERI Royalty for Commoners
      EDTN 3d
      PUBL Genealogical Publishing co., Inc, Baltimore, MD (1998)
      ISB 0-8063-1561-X
      TEXT (300-40; 302-40; 346-40)
      DATE 19 MAY 2000

      GIVN Ava, Countess of
      SURN Alsace
      NSFX Countess of Tour
      AFN 9HQD-LC

      GIVN Ava Countess of
      SURN ALSACE
      DATE 15 Dec 2000
      HIST: @N1241@Dead
      Dead
    • Rootsweb Feldman
      URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3044567&id=I18474
      # ID: I18474
      # Name: Hugo L'Abbe Bastard Holy HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 1 2 3 4 5
      # Sex: M
      # Birth: 794 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia 1 2 3 4 5
      # Death: 7 JUN 844 in Angouleme 1 2 3 4 5
      # Ancestral File #: 9GCD-XV
      # Change Date: 15 JAN 2004 5
      # Change Date: 18 OCT 2001 2 3 4 5
      # Note:

      [Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED]

      2 SOUR S332582
      3 DATA
      4 TEXT Date of Import: 14 Jan 2004

      [daveanthes.FTW]

      OCCU ...
      SOUR CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says 794, Prussia; www.teleport.com/ddonahue/donahue says
      ABT 794;members.aol.com/sargen3 says ABT 794, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia;
      www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
      SOUR CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says 844; www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
      members.aol.com/sargen3;
      Hugo (L'Abbe) Bastard of the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE - www.teleport.com/ddonahue/donahue;

      Father: Charles I dit CHARLEMAGNE b: 2 APR 747 in Aachen, Allemagne
      Mother: Himiltrude VON RHINELAND b: ABT 742 in Prussia

      Father: Charlemagne Emperor of HOLY ROMAN EMPIR b: 2 APR 742 in Ingelheim, Rheinhessen, Hesse-Darmstadt
      Mother: Himiltrude VON RHINELAND b: ABT 742 in Prussia

      Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown

      Children

      1. Has Children Petronille DE AUXERRE b: 825 in Rhineland, Prussia


      Sources:

      1. Title: daveanthes.FTW
      Note: ABBR daveanthes.FTW
      Note: Source Media Type: Other
      Repository:
      Call Number:
      Media: Book
      Text: Date of Import: 14 Jan 2004
      2. Title: daveanthes.FTW
      Note: ABBR daveanthes.FTW
      Note: Source Media Type: Other
      Repository:
      Call Number:
      Media: Book
      Text: Date of Import: Jan 13, 2004
      3. Title: Spare.FTW
      Repository:
      Call Number:
      Media: Other
      Text: Date of Import: Jan 18, 2004
      4. Title: Spare.FTW
      Repository:
      Call Number:
      Media: Other
      Text: Date of Import: 21 Jan 2004
      5. Title: Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED
      Repository:
      Call Number:
      Media: Other
      Text: Date of Import: Feb 6, 2004
    • [2811] OCCU Bara
    • [1669] EDWARD3.TXT Ava Countess of ALSACE b 769
    • !Name is; Ava Countess of Upper /ALSACE/; Countess of Tours.
    • !Name is; Ava Countess of Upper /ALSACE/; Countess of Tours.
    • !Name is; Ava Countess of Upper /ALSACE/; Countess of Tours.
    Person ID I6000000006210203413  Ancestors of Donald Ross
    Last Modified 11 Mar 2020 

    Family Hugues "the Timid" von Sundgau, count of Tours,   b. Abt 775,   d. 20 Oct 837, Tours, Indre Et Loire, Touraine Centre, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 62 years) 
    Married Abt 790  France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Adélaïs / Aélis von Sundgau,   b. Abt 819,   d. 882  (Age 63 years)
     2. Ermengarde de Tours,   b. 28 May 800,   d. 20 Mar 851, Strasbourg, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 50 years)
     3. Luitfried Graf im Sundgau, Graf im Sundgau,   b. Abt 797,   d. 864, Alsace, Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 67 years)
    Last Modified 14 Mar 2021 
    Family ID F4027033306480031460  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart