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  • Name Wido comte de Nantes  
    Suffix comte de Nantes 
    Nickname Guy 
    Born Abt 759  Bretagne Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Address:
    France
    France 
    Gender Male 
    Name Gui Count March 
    Occupation Conde de Nantes 
    Occupation Count of Nantes appointed to replace the late Roland as Warden of the Breton March, graaf van Nantes, hrabia 
    Occupation Margrave de Camerino, Duque de Espoleto e Camerino, Rei da Itália e Imperador do Sacro Império Romano 
    Occupation Marquis de Bretagne 
    Occupation Marquis, de Bretagne, Comte, de Nantes 
    Occupation 778  Marca Bretone Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Marchese 
    Address:
    Nantes
    Nantes, Neustria
    France 
    Occupation 799  Contea di Nantes Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Conte 
    Address:
    Bretagna France
    Bretagna
    France 
    Died 814 
    Address:
    Nantes
    Nantes, Pays de la Loire
    France 
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    • {geni:about_me}
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guideschi

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_of_Nantes

      Guy or Guido (died before 819) was appointed to replace the late Roland as Warden of the Breton March after his death at the Battle of Roncesvalles in 778. Guy no more effectively exercised control over Brittany than his predecessor, but was the chief contact by which the Bretons knew French policy. His actual territory of control was the County of Nantes. Carolingian infighting distracted Guy and prevented him from exhibiting any real authority. It was to be Norman pressure on the Bretons which would open a portal to a French dynasty in Brittany under Berengar of Rennes.

      Guy was the son of Lambert and Teutberga of the Austrasian family of the Guideschi. Guy received his charge in Neustria and Nantes about 799, at the same time that his brother Frodoald received the county of Vannes. Royal annals note in the year 799 that "Guy, prefect of the marches of Brittany, who in the same year traversed the whole province with the counts his colleagues, came to present [to Charlemagne] at Aachen, the arms of the Breton chiefs who had been rendered to him, and on each trophy was inscribed the name of the chief to whom the weapon belonged." It was specified at the same time that "Brittany appeared then to be entirely subject."

      Guy's name subsequently appears, notably in 814, in the many acts recorded in the cartulary of the abbey of Saint-Sauveur de Redon, where it is found beside that of Jarnhitin (or Iarnhitin), machtiern (or mactiern) or princeps plebis (prince of the people, meaning chief). The cartulary says "Jarnhitin rules, Guy is count."

      Guy died before 819, leaving his son Lambert as count of Nantes and prefect of the march.


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      [https://www.geni.com/people/Lambert-di-Guideschi/6000000010300405559?through=6000000010300416316 LANTBERT], son of --- . He was related to Liutwin "der Heilige" Bishop of Trier, who died in [717]. Graf. Vogt of Kloster Hornbach and Kloster Mettlach (founded in 742 by Bishop Liutwin).

      m [https://www.geni.com/people/Theutberge-de-Mettlach/6000000010300399445?through=6000000010300405559 DEOTBRIC], daughter of --- (-768). The source which names the wife of Lantbert has not yet been identified.

      Lantbert & his wife had three children:

      1. ''' [https://www.geni.com/people/Guy-comte-de-Nantes/6000000010300416316 WIDO] (-814). "Carolus…rex Francorum et Langobardorum" issued judgment in favour of Kloster Mettlach by charter dated to [782] which records privileges granted to "Karolus quondam maiorem domus Miloni" and by King Pepin to "Miloni", names "Leudonius quondam episcopus genitor Miloni et Widoni", specifying that Milo succeeded Leudonius as bishop, and details the dispute between "Wicberto misso et filios Lantberti, Widoni et Hrodoldo vel Warnario"[276]. “Wydo [signed Widonis comitis]...germani mei...Warini” donated “in pago Blesensi super fluviolos duos...Trualbam et Sualbam...monasterium...Myndenbach” to Hornbach by charter dated 9 May 796[277]. The Royal Frankish Annals record that Wido was installed as prefect of the march of Brittany "comes ac praefectus Britanni limites" in 799 by Charles I King of the Franks, subdued the Bretons in 799 and brought the Breton chief's weapons, engraved with his name, to the king at Worms[278]. The Annales Laurissenses Continuatio records that "Wido comes" was appointed to "marca Brittaniæ" in 799[279]. Imperial missus in 802[280]. "Wido comite" is referred to in an 814 document of Kloster Redon[281]. m ---. The name of Wido's wife is not known. Wido & his wife had two children:'''

      a) [https://www.geni.com/people/Wido-comte-de-Vannes/6000000091233918194?from_flash=1&fsession_id=1555616255607&through=6000000010300416316 WIDO] (-killed in battle 834). The primary source which confirms the parentage of Wido has not yet been identified. Comte de Vannes. "Wido" supported Emperor Louis I during the rebellion of the latter's sons and in 834 was sent to Brittany to drive out "Mathfrid, Lambert [presumably Wido's brother, although this is not specified] and all the others of Lothar's party" but was killed[282]. The Annales Xantenses record that "Mahtfrdum atque Landbertum, principes Lotharii consules" were captured and killed in 834[283], "Landbertum" presumably being an error for "Widonem" as Wido's brother Lambert was killed in Italy. The Chronica Rainaldi records that "Odo comes Aurelianensium, Willelmus frater eius comes Blesensium, Guido comes Cenomanensium" died in battle fighting "Lambertum" in 835[284].

      b) [https://www.geni.com/people/Lambert-I-marchese-and-duke-of-Spoleto/4966601616470103323?through=6000000091233918194 LAMBERT] (-Ticino 30 Dec 836). The primary source which confirms the parentage of Lambert has not yet been identified. He succeeded as Count of the Breton march. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Walam et Warnarium, necnon et Lambertum sed et Ingobertum" as missi [in 813], recording that "Warnarius comes…accito nepote Lantberto" acted without the knowledge of "Wala et Ingelberto"[285]. He was expelled from Aachen with his uncle Warner in 814 by King Louis I after the death of Emperor Karl I, Warner being killed in the conflict which followed[286]. The Royal Frankish Annals record that the forces of "Count Lambert" defeated and killed Wihomarc who had rebelled in Brittany in 825[287]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "comitem Lantbertum" was custodian of Nijmegen [in 830][288], presumably a temporary appointment as "comes palatii" of the royal palace at Nijmegen maybe for the period of the emperor's visit. "Lambert" was one of the supporters of the rebellion of co-Emperor Lothaire I in 833/34, and consequently lost his position in the Breton march[289]. The Annales Fuldenses record the rebellion of "Mahtfredo et Lantberto" in 834 and the battle in which "Udo comes Aurelianensium et Theodo abbas sancti Martini Turonensis" were killed[290]. In 834, he was sent to Italy where Lothar gave him land and installed him as Marchese and Duke of Spoleto.

      2. [https://www.geni.com/people/Hrodoald/6000000091233963163?through=6000000010300399445 HRODOALD] . "Carolus…rex Francorum et Langobardorum" issued judgment in favour of Kloster Mettlach by charter dated to [782] which records privileges granted to "Karolus quondam maiorem domus Miloni" and by King Pepin to "Miloni", names "Leudonius quondam episcopus genitor Miloni et Widoni", specifying that Milo succeeded Leudonius as bishop, and details the dispute between "Wicberto misso et filios Lantberti, Widoni et Hrodoldo vel Warnario"[291].

      3. [https://www.geni.com/people/Werner/6000000091233382241?through=6000000091233963163 WERNER] [Warner] (-killed 814). "Carolus…rex Francorum et Langobardorum" issued judgment in favour of Kloster Mettlach by charter dated to [782] which records privileges granted to "Karolus quondam maiorem domus Miloni" and by King Pepin to "Miloni", names "Leudonius quondam episcopus genitor Miloni et Widoni", specifying that Milo succeeded Leudonius as bishop, and details the dispute between "Wicberto misso et filios Lantberti, Widoni et Hrodoldo vel Warnario"[292]. “Wydo [signed Widonis comitis]...germani mei...Warini” donated “in pago Blesensi super fluviolos duos...Trualbam et Sualbam...monasterium...Myndenbach” to Hornbach by charter dated 9 May 796[293]. “Werinheruss comes” declared that “nullus propinquorum meorum” would have influence over Hornbach, unless they were of similar age to himself, by charter dated 13 May 807[294]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Walam et Warnarium, necnon et Lambertum sed et Ingobertum" as missi [in 813], recording that "Warnarius comes…accito nepote Lantberto" acted without the knowledge of "Wala et Ingelberto"[295]. He was expelled from Aachen with his nephew Lambert in 814 by King Louis I after the death of Emperor Karl I, and was killed in the conflict which followed[296]. same person as…? WARNER (-before 834). Emperor Louis I confirmed the donation to "Duserensi monasterio" made by "Warnarius quondam comes…villam Masteces…in pago Tricastinensi…cum uxore…Hildisnota…defuncta" by charter dated 834[297]. m [https://www.geni.com/people/Hildisnot/6000000091233645371?through=6000000091233382241 HILDISNOT], daughter of --- (-before 834). Emperor Louis I confirmed the donation to "Duserensi monasterio" made by "Warnarius quondam comes…villam Masteces…in pago Tricastinensi…cum uxore…Hildisnota…defuncta" by charter dated 834[298].
      http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#LambertIdied836A

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      Gui (Guido) (Count) von HORNBACH

      Count on the Breton March; (de NANTES); poss. eponym of the WIDONIDS

      Born: abt. 753 Died: abt. 814
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      Guido (Wido) von Nantes († 802/814), war Graf von Nantes und Markgraf der Bretonischen Mark. Er war als Sohn von Lambert aus der Familie der aus Austrien stammenden Guidonen und der Bosonidin Deotbric.

      Graf Wido ist Nachkomme und Besitznachfolger des Warnharius, der um 742 das Kloster Hornbach in der Pfalz stiftete; ebenfalls Nachkommen des Warnharius sind Willigart (828 Schenkerin von Wilgartswiesen (Pfalz)) und ihr Nepos Warnharius; zu den Besitznachfolgern und vermutlich auch zu den Nachkommen Warnharius' gehört darüber hinaus Werner, der Stammvater der Salier, wodurch die Verwandtschaft der beiden Familien belegt ist, ohne dass sie konkret fassbar wird.

      Guido tritt erstmals gemeinsam mit dem Abt Fulrad von Saint-Denis – noch im Dienst des Königs Pippin der Jüngere († 768) – im Elsass und in der Ortenau auf. Auf Druck Karls des Großen musste er 782 seine Ansprüche, die er auf das Kloster Mettlach erhob, dass sein Vater in seinen Besitz gebracht hatte, aufgeben. 796 treten er und sein Bruder Warnharius als Besitzer des Klosters Hornbach auf.

      Die Herrschaft über Nantes und die Bretonische Mark erhielt er vor 799, gleichzeitig wurde sein Bruder Frodoald (Hrodolt) ihm als Graf von Vannes unterstellt; in der Zeit danach scheint er die Bretagne – wenigstens kurzzeitig – weitgehend unterworfen zu haben. Drei Jahre später (802) ist er kaiserlicher Missus in der Touraine.

      Seine Nachfolge sowohl in Nantes als auch der Mark trat sein Sohn Lambert I. von Nantes an, der bereits 806 als Graf und 818 als Markgraf genannt wird.

      Literatur [Bearbeiten]

      * André Chédeville, Hubert Guillotel :La Bretagne des saints et des rois Ve-Xe siècle Editions Ouest France (1984) ISBN 2-85882-613-7

      * Josef Fleckenstein: Fulrad von Saint-Denis und der fränkische Ausgriff in den süddeutschen Raum. in: Studien und Vorarbeiten zur Geschichte des Großfränkischen und frühdeutschen Adels Eberhard Albert Verlag Freiburg im Breisgau 1957

      * Irmgard Dienemann-Dietrich: Der fränkische Adel in Alemannien im 8. Jahrhundert. in: Grundfragen der Alemannischen Geschichte. Vorträge und Forschungen Band 1 Jan Thorbecke Verlag Sigmaringen

      * Die Reichsannalen mit Zusätzen aus den sogenannten Einhardsannalen. Quellen zur karolingischen Reichsgeschichte Band V Wissenschaftliche Buchgesellschaft Darmstadt 1974

      * Andreas Kalckhoff: Karl der Große. Profile eines Herrschers. R. Piper GmbH & Co. KG, München 1987

      * Lexikon des Mittelalters IX, 67

      * Michael Mitterauer: Karolingische Markgrafen im Südosten. Archiv für österreichische Geschichte Band 123. Hermann Böhlaus Nachf./Graz-Wien-Köln 1963

      * Pierre Riché,: Die Karolinger, Deutscher Taschenbuch Verlag München 1991

      * Hermann Schreibmüller: Die Ahnen Kaiser Konrads II. und Bischof Brunos von Würzburg, in Herbiopolis Jubilans. 1200 Jahre Bistum Würzburg. Festschrift zur Säkularfeier der Erhebung der Kiliansreliquien Würzburger Diözesangeschichtsblätter 14/15 1952

      * Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln Band II (1984) Tafel 188b, sowie (verbesserte Fassung) Band III.1 (1984) bei den Korrekturen und Ergänzungen im Anhang

      * Andreas Thiele: Erzählende genealogische Stammtafeln zur europäischen Geschichte Band II, Teilband 2 Europäische Kaiser-, Königs- und Fürstenhäuser II Nord-, Ost- und Südeuropa, R.G. Fischer Verlag 1994 Tafel 389

      * Noël-Yves Tonnerre : Naissance de la Bretagne, Presses de l'Université d'Angers (1994), ISBN 2-903075-58-9 (formal falsche ISBN)

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    • ROG. Filiation douteuse ailleurs : JMG : Lambert de Hornbach, Comte de Hornbach, né vers 725 et Theutberge N. AUR : Wido d'Alsace
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      Father: Lambert DE TREVES b: 722 in in France

      Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown

      Children

      1. Has Children I LAMBERT , Count Of Nantes b: 771


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    Person ID I6000000010300416316  Ancestors of Donald Ross
    Last Modified 22 Nov 2020 

    Father Lantbert count of Hornbach, count of Hornbach,   b. Abt 710,   d. Abt 783  (Age 73 years) 
    Mother Deotbric,   d. 768 
    Family ID F6000000009305225554  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Children 
     1. Lambert,   d. 30 Dec 836
    Last Modified 14 Mar 2021 
    Family ID F6000000051560579981  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart