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Thomas Erskine, 2nd Lord Erskine[1]

Male Abt 1418 - Abt 1493  (75 years)


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  • Name Thomas Erskine 
    Suffix 2nd Lord Erskine 
    Nickname 13th Earl of Mar Erskine 
    Born Abt 1418 
    Address:
    Erskine
    Erskine
    Scotland 
    Gender Male 
    Occupation 2nd Lord Erskine, de jure 14th Earl of Mar 
    Died Abt 1493 
    Address:
    Erskine
    Erskine
    Scotland 
    Notes 
    • {geni:about_me} http://thepeerage.com/p2588.htm#i25871

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Erskine,_2nd_Lord_Erskine

      Thomas Erskine, 2nd Lord Erskine (d. 1494), de jure 14th Earl of Mar, was a Scottish peer.

      Erskine was the son of Robert Erskine, 1st Lord Erskine, and Elizabeth, daughter of David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford. He married Janet Douglas. They had several children. One daughter, Helen, married Humphrey Colquhoun of Luss, son of Sir John Colquhoun of Luss. Another daughter, Margaret, married William Keith, 1st Earl Marischal.[1]

      Lord Erskine died in 1494 and was succeeded by his son, Alexander.

      http://www.erskinclan.com/gene4.html

      Thomas Erskine, the King's bodyguard, foiled the Gowrie Conspiracy and was enobled as Lord Erskine by James II in 1460.

      http://www.instirling.com/sight/tower.htm

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      https://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getperson.php?personID=I2484&tree=CC

      The identity of Thomas Erskine's wife is not certain. She may not have been a daughter of the 1st Earl of Morton although that is often stated, sometimes as Elizabeth but perhaps more often as Janet.
      Cunningham gedcom source says this Janet died without male issue which would seem to promote Elizabeths claim to the position of wife of Thomas Erskine and mother of his heir and probably other children.

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      https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/erskine/378/

      [These are the dates for Thomas, father of the 1st Lord !]

      Parents: Sir Robert Erskine 1st Lord Erskine and Elizabeth Lindsay.

      1st wife: Janet Douglas, heiress of Dalkeith, who died at the birth of her first child[This Janet Douglas was the 1st wife ofThomas, father of the 1st Lord]

      He was married to Janet Douglas before 1445 in Scotland.
      Douglas' Peerage Vol. 5, pg. 105 - "He married, before 1445, Janet Douglas States in Douglas' Peerage she is the daughter of James, Earl of Morton, granddaughter of King James I.

      [This is impossible, Janet dau of James, Earl of Morton by Joan, dau of King James I cannot have been born before 1459 – the date of her parent’s marriage.She married Bef. 1 Feb 1480/1 to Patrick Hepburn, 1st Earl of Bothwell, and died Bef. 1491.IfJanet Douglas, wife of Thomas, 2nd Lord Erskine was of the Morton family then she came from a previous generation, nothing can be stated with any certainty.She was his wife in Aug 1489]

      2nd wife: Janet Keith or Barclay, widow of Sir David Barclay;
      It was Janet's heritage that connected the Erskine family with the Earldom of Mar.

      [Janet Keith was the 2nd wife ofThomas, father of the 1st Lord – vide supra]

      children:[These are misplaced - children of Sir Thomas, father of the 1st Lord]
      i. - Sir Robert Erskine
      ii. - John Erskine - ancestor of the Erskines of Dun and of Pittodrie
      iii. - Elizabeth Erskine - married to Duncan Wemyss of Rires
      iv. - Margaret Erskine - married to Lord James Rutherfurd[Two of her ?!?]

      Children were:
      Alexander Erskine 3rd Lord Erskine
      Helen Erskine
      Isobel Erskine
      Elizabeth Erskine
      Mariota Erskine
      Margaret Erskine - married Lord James Rutherfurd II[Not shown in SP V, p. 606-7.If their first child – Peter was b Abt. 1450 then she CANNOT have been born after 1435.Her supposed parents were married Bef .1445 – vide supra.Thomas d in or Abt. 1493, his parents m Aft. 1400, he was no doubt of age in 1441 – therefore his birth had to occur between 1401-20, probably much towards the end of that range given his death date]

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      https://books.google.com/books?id=2ss6AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=thomas+erskine+married+elizabeth+douglas&source=bl&ots=fTTYYpbPpY&sig=y10ksRk3JJdeT3HuYk7H3nnSzjc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj_itX5uP7eAhWmj4MKHRIbBpk4ChDoATADegQICBAB#v=onepage&q=thomas%20erskine%20married%20elizabeth%20douglas&f=false

      Thomas, second Lord Erskine, who married Lady Elizabeth Douglas, daughter of James, Earl Of Morton, and dying before 1494, had Alexander, third Lord Erskine, guardian to K. James the IVth.
    Person ID I6000000012774757564  Ancestors of Donald Ross
    Last Modified 22 Jan 2019 

    Father Robert Erskine, 1st Lord Erskine,   b. Abt 1368,   d. 6 Nov 1452  (Age 84 years) 
    Mother Elizabeth Lindsay, of Crawford,   b. 1385, Angusshire, Kincardineshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1452, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age > 68 years) 
    Married Abt 20 Dec 1400  Selkirkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F6000000002116485574  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Janet Douglas,   b. 7 Mar 1415,   d. 21 Feb 1490, Bothwell Castle Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years) 
    Married Abt 1445 
    Children 
     1. Mariota Erskine,   b. 1430, Selkirk Castle Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1482  (Age 52 years)
    Last Modified 14 Mar 2021 
    Family ID F6000000012774806244  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart